April 24, 2017

DNC Chairman Tom Perez routinely uses the word "shit" in speeches.

Politico reports:
With children on stage behind him, Perez told an audience in Las Vegas this weekend that Trump "doesn't give a shit about health care."

Perez, President Barack Obama's former labor secretary, made similar comments earlier this year. "They call it a skinny budget, I call it a shitty budget," Perez said in Portland, Maine.
And here's a shirt that's sold (for $30) on the DNC website:



Derangement syndrome.

I can't believe they think this is a good idea.

ADDED: Instapundit links to this post and says, "It was just a few months ago they were going to the fainting couches over Trump. Remember?," pointing at Hillary's "Our Children Are Watching" ad:

149 comments:

TWW said...

How about "Democrats don't give a shit about BART."

ddh said...

German has a word to describe Tom Perez: Scheißkopf.

George M. Spencer said...

Just imagine the ads the GOP will run against the Democrats.

"They won't behave on stage. Imagine how they'll behave with your money. The American people deserve better."

traditionalguy said...

A French diplomat once called Israel a shitty little country that deserves no respect. Gut level Antisemitism is still traditional in the once Roman Catholic countries of Europe. It is such a stupid idea that only the Jacksonian Red Necks avoided that insanity in America.

tim in vermont said...

They give a shit about certain people who fall within the parameters of their identity politics. Other people? Not so much.

David said...

I am fed up with self referential people like Perez.

It is instructive, however, to remember that the Democrats choose him as the best they had.

ga6 said...

Wait until they move up to MF and SB...

traditionalguy said...

NB: Even using of Bullshit in an argument gets no kinder and gentler treatment. Believe me, I have tried it. Perez is Toast among middle class voters.

robother said...

Perhaps they could hand out ossified turds of whichever Democrat President was the last to actually give a shit about the American people.

ddh said...

It's Tom Perez's dog whistle to the base that the Democrats will keep on fight! fight! fighting! for transgendered bathrooms instead of ordinary people. Also, obscenity is what phonies thinks makes them sound authentic.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

"Gut level Antisemitism is still traditional in the once Roman Catholic countries of Europe."

Gut level anti-Semitism is not unknown in the Protestant countries either. I don't think that Frenchman's sentiments would be condemned in elite political circles in Sweden, the UK or the Netherlands.

Brent said...

Judging by today's Washington Post/ABC poll results, the Democrats have the lowest number ever for the question about the Democrats caring for people like you.

Keep you the foul mouth there Perez. Also, announcing that you have to be pro-choice to be welcome at all in the Democrat Party --- Perez said that this weekend.

I will begin giving money to the DNC just to keep Perez and company and their brilliant exclusivity in power.
YES!

Comanche Voter said...

Well you have a President (D) who makes wee wee jokes and comments. You have a DNC chair with a potty mouth. When will these four year olds grow up?

readering said...

Dumb thing to do but may look different if government shuts down this weekend.

Bay Area Guy said...

You guys are being uptight. The Dems are political geniuses. They dominate the state legislatures, the governorships, the Congress ... oh wait, sorry.

traditionalguy said...

@ exiledonmainstreet... The Protestant countries of Europe you mention were also once Roman Catholic countries that barely changed.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

I believe the Dems think saying "shit" a lot makes them look tough and like they're in touch with the common man.

Earnest Prole said...

It may be fine with da kidz, but old people don't like it, and unlike da kidz old people actually vote.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

traditionalguy said...
@ exiledonmainstreet... The Protestant countries of Europe you mention were also once Roman Catholic countries that barely changed."

That's moving the goalposts a bit, since every country in Europe (with the exception of the Orthodox ones) was once Catholic.

tcrosse said...

I believe the Dems think saying "shit" a lot makes them look tough and like they're in touch with the common man.

They just say what's in their head.

pacwest said...

They give a shit about people? That's it? Since they are giving us something couldn't they give us something else besides shit? I'm already pretty tired of their shit.

Lost My Cookies said...

But it's spool cool!

Unknown said...

I think Trump made them lose their s*** and they seem to think that if they invoke it often enough, it will return.

Scott said...

Democrats are experiencing some clarity about their infantilism. And they are too fucking stupid to see it.

Virgil Hilts said...

The opposite of an insult is not always a compliment. You might tell a stalker that you don't give a shit about them, but if you had a crush on someone you would probably not say, gee I just realized how much shit I give about you.
Scatological endearments are not always the best.

JaimeRoberto said...

Like scriptwriters who have run out of ideas have substituted cursing for comedy, Dems have substituted cursing for arguments.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

There's also this, trad guy, regarding the Church of Scotland

LONDON – Britain’s recently installed Chief Rabbi Ephraim Mirvis has rebuked the Church of Scotland for a report it issued last year that was highly critical of Israel.

"(Their) controversial report, titled “The Inheritance of Abraham: A Report on the Promised Land,” was published in April 2013 and included a section discussing what it termed “Jewish claims to the ‘Land of Israel.’” The report said that “there has been a widespread assumption by many Christians, as well as many Jewish people, that the Bible supports an essentially Jewish State of Israel. This raises an increasing number of difficulties and current Israeli policies regarding the Palestinians have sharpened this questioning.” The report added that “promises about the Land of Israel were never intended to be taken literally.”

The representative body of Scottish Jewry, the Scottish Council of Jewish Communities, sharply criticized the report, describing it as “an outrage to everything that interfaith dialogue stands for,” and said that it “reads like an Inquisition-era polemic against Jews and Judaism.

“The arrogance of telling the Jewish people how to interpret Jewish texts and Jewish theology is breathtaking,” it added.

The track record of Europeans in general is not great when it comes to Israel and the Jews. And most of them - whether they are nominally Catholic or nominally Protestant -don't bother with church nowadays anyway.


David Begley said...

Ann:
But this is where the Dem base is at. At a rally for the Dem running for Omaha mayor featuring Bernie Sanders, buttons reading "Fuck Trump" were being sold inside the arena by the Democrat party. Keith Ellison was there too. Tom Perez was scheduled for the same rally.

The Godfather said...

@Althouse: They don't give a shit about what you think.

john said...

"I give a shit."

"I don't give a shit."

Either way, means the same.

Pillage Idiot said...

A highly paid political consultant probably told the DNC to start sprinkling "shit" into their speeches as an outreach program to disaffected blue collar whites.

Bay Area Guy said...

We need some vigilant grammarians and, perhaps, even a few professional entymologists to help unravel this.

If Jack says, "Bill doesn't give a shit about Mary" -- we all know what Jack means.

Would Jill say in rejoinder, "No, that's incorrect. Bill does give a shit about Mary. In fact, he loaned Mary $50 last week to pay her rent".

It's a bit asymmetrical -- not giving a shit about X, carries much more meaning than its purported inverse, giving a shit about X. The latter conveys a whiff of "damning with faint praise."

"But, Baby, I do give a shit about you, jeez. Didn't I send you a card last Tuesday?"

"Yeah, Baby, I really do give a shit about you. Can't you stay a few minutes longer?"

These don't seem to cut it.

Yes, black lives matter. I mean, I really do give a shit about black lives, dammit!

traditionalguy said...

Good point Exiled...The goal posts are moved. They are now in Jerusalem, which is so far away that hating jews has to use local Palestinian terrorists to slaughter women and children for being Jewish. That is the result of the world changes of 1945 and 1967.

tim in vermont said...

Dumb thing to do but may look different if government shuts down this weekend.

You mean if the Democrats shut it down because they don't get their way and don't give a shit about who gets hurt by their politicking?

Bay Area Guy said...

When Tom Perez and Bernie Sanders continue their unity tour, I'd like to see Bernie wearing a t-shirt on stage, which reads "I'm with Shithead."

Leora said...

It would be interesting as a sociological study to see who curses in public. It seems to me much more prevalent among those with advanced degrees from elite colleges and genuine lowlifes than among the general public.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

This is all for the good. I'm completely in favor of the Democrats becoming associated with the word "shit."

"Make America Great Again!"

"Shit!"

Chuck said...

I count about two dozen posts above me, along the general lines of, "Do Democrats, and Perez, think this is a good idea? It isn't."

Professor Althouse agrees. I agree.

But let's please remember that Donald Trump is the guy who told a stadium-sized crowd (and no doubt bunches and bunches of children) that he'd "bomb the shit out of [ISIS]". In this video I see a young boy of about 11 or 12 in the right side of the frame of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWejiXvd-P8

Trump also yelled at the House Republicans and told them to quit worrying about the little shit and get the health care bill passed.

Yep; Tom Perez is a crude slug. So is Donald Trump.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

" That is the result of the world changes of 1945 and 1967."

Agreed, trad guy.

Bay Area Guy said...

Rejected Democrat t-shirt slogans:

"I am in a world of shit, Joker" (Full Metal Jacket)

"Trump doesn't give a shit about you"

"My candidate got 66 million votes, and all I got was this shitty little t-shirt"

traditionalguy said...

On Morning Joe today the duo sucked up to Chuck Shumer and invited him to take an uninterrupted 10 minutes to condemn Trump for causing the Dems to act like utterly dumb filibuster everything gang.

The way he looked into the camera for 10 minutes was the epitome of a " shit eating Grin."

I almost felt sorry for them all. Then Trump's strategy has made them into irrelevant fools.

Bob Boyd said...

Greg Gianforte and Donald Trump Jr. give a shit about prairie dogs.

United Airlines gives a shit about overbooking.

Berkeley gives a shit about conservative speakers on campus.

Democrats give a shit about people.

Kevin said...

What's worse? The use of the word shit, or the idea that at least some Democrats believe half the humans in the country don't care about "people"?

I'd be much more embarrassed for wearing the shirt because I believed the latter than that it included the former.

Seriously, this is what passes for DNC thinking at this particular moment.

Kevin said...

Remember, this shirt is only true in their minds because the deplorables aren't really people.

Gahrie said...

Once again, our lifelong Republican uses a post about the Democrats behaving badly to point out..."Hey..our guy is doing it too!!"

The worst thing about this guys shtick is that he thinks this is the way a lifelong Republican would actually behave.

George M. Spencer said...

How far we have fallen...

On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it, all sought to avert it. While the inaugural address was being delivered from this place, devoted altogether to saving the Union without war, insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war—seeking to dissolve the Union and divide effects by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war, but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish. And the war came.

One-eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union even by war, while the Government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it. Neither party expected for the war the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with or even before the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully.

The Almighty has His own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh." If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether."

With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.

sean said...

Wow, what a prude Prof. Althouse has turned into. I wonder what she taught about Cohen v. California.

tim in vermont said...

The problem with swearing all the time is that eventually you run out of ways to express certain emotions.

Bob Boyd said...

"But let's please remember that Donald Trump is the guy..."

That's exactly why they went with this. They concluded Trump's cursing was a calculation to seem more authentic and they want to try the same tactic.
They also sense a visceral disgust throughout the electorate with career politicians and they want to seem to identify with that, to seem like they share the angry sentiment as opposed to being one of those who inspire it.

tim in vermont said...

Bob Boyd nails it.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Derangement syndrome.

I can't believe they think this is a good idea.


Your candidate calls Chinese "motherfuckers," talks about them as if he's a mob don and advocates "grabbing women by the pussy."

Is your affiliation with him and his mental illness really that complete that you believe what's allowed for him won't be allowed for others?

rhhardin said...

It's odd that shit can't be used in every grammatical position like fuck.

"I don't shitting care about it" doesn't come up. All you can do is not give a shit.

This suggests that shit isn't an epithet.

DKWalser said...

My wife and I were discussing this earlier today: Those who relentlessly hold others to account for microaggressions and who work to root out triggering words and references from all aspects of our lives are also those who think nothing of using profanity in public. "Don't like it? Well, you can f-off!", is what they're apt to say if you have the temerity to object to their use of language that would have gotten a prior generation's mouth washed out with soap. But, if you say or do anything that can be distorted by some wild stretch of the imagination into a degradation of some historically marginalized group, there is no forgiveness.

rhhardin said...

Cunt is the worst bad word because it's not PC in addition to being an officially bad word, the latter being of no importance except to couch-fainters.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

"Also, obscenity is what phonies thinks makes them sound authentic."

Exactly. Watching a White middle-class Liberal do their jus' folks/working-class hero routines is endlessly entertaining.

Segesta said...

Further evidence that liberals are merely unserious people, with unserious ways of expressing themselves. See also: Pussy Hats.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Again, in the right context, you would "advocate" it yourself.

Who even knows what that means. Regardless, the comparison wasn't to me, Professor.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Chinese "motherfuckers,"

In the right context, it's a term of endearment.


What context would that be? A trade war?

Bob Boyd said...

Meade's right, Toothless.

Trump said "they'll let you grab them by the pussy"
I too have grabbed the pussy when women let me and I'm here to advocate for the mental and physical health benefits of grabbing women by the pussy when they'll let you. It can be cathartic, therapeutic and fun for all concerned. Try it some time. Don't grab too hard though. Grab it like you're grabbin'....a kitten.

I'm not familiar with the Chinese motherfucker thing.

Meade said...

"Cunt is the worst bad word"

Depends. If you accidentally use shit or fuck around small children, they will hear it and call you out on it. Daddy you said we don't say that. Oops.

Cunt goes right past their innocent little ears.

Barry Dauphin said...

From: Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.

To: I call it a shitty budget

Bob Boyd said...

"Cunt goes right past their innocent little ears."

Once.
Then they'll go ask that one kid who always knows what all the bad words mean.

Rae said...

>I can't believe they think this is a good idea.

I can't believe you can't believe they think this is a good idea. I could see the arc of history years ago.

At least we're reaching end stage leftism. Terminal you might say.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I too have grabbed the pussy when women let me and I'm here to advocate for the mental and physical health benefits of grabbing women by the pussy when they'll let you.

Right, Bob. That's how you approach them, which was the context of the Trump quote.

A quote which this blog months back concluded defined him as a sexual assailant.

But that was before the political benefit of talking out of both sides of one mouth was as thoroughly embraced.

Lost My Cookies said...

Chinese "motherfuckers,"

That's OK

Motherfucking Chinese! Is racist.

Bill Burr can explain it to you.

Anonymous said...

"Is your affiliation with him and his mental illness really that complete that you believe what's allowed for him won't be allowed for others?"

Trump Amnesia Syndrome.

Meade said...

"I'm not familiar with the Chinese motherfucker thing."

Think urban street. Endearment might be pushing it. More like respect. Say it super fast and smooth. muthafugca. It becomes of a suffix meaning something like "ordinary chap."

Bob Boyd said...

2016 - Stronger Together

2017 - Stronger Language

Meade said...

"Once.
Then they'll go ask that one kid who always knows what all the bad words mean."

Rright.
Of course, one really should be waiting until the children are all in bed before focusing on such wondrous pleasures anyway Im sure we can all agree.

TBlakely said...

I remember as a teenager in the late '60s and '70s thinking that much of what the left was selling seemed real appealing. One thing about the left back then put me off, it was there utter lack of class. They delighted in being rude and crude just to upset the 'squares' and that behavior has just gotten worse over time. To me they're actions belied their message so I never bought in.

Meade said...

"Trump Amnesia Syndrome."

That's a good one, Inga. Really.

cubanbob said...

Well if we are going to get into the shit the Republicans ought to make a T-shirt with the slogan "Democrats don't give a shit about taxpayers. We do."

Bob Boyd said...

Meade's got me practicing my muthafugcas. I feel hipper already. I think I'll throw in a "Yo" now.

Paul Ciotti said...

They were doing okay with the ad about the kids watching Trump on TV until Hillary began to speak. She can't say "good morning" without it sounding phony and rehearsed.

Anonymous said...

"That's a good one, Inga. Really."

It's accurate. It doesn't need to be good.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Is our children watching.

Meade said...

"I think I'll throw in a "Yo" now."

Careful. You could slip a disc.

Drago said...

I am glad that TTR is speaking up for all the delicate Hollywood snowflakes who were so stunned by the idea that some women in certain showbusiness venues might not be that aghast at the idea of a "rich and famous" personality

Meade said...

"It's accurate. It doesn't need to be good."

Well see now there you go again Inga getting everything backwards.

Drago said...

....grabbing them a bit here and there. Goodness knows that is quite shocking for the innocent Hollywood types.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Think urban street. Endearment might be pushing it. More like respect. Say it super fast and smooth. muthafugca. It becomes of a suffix meaning something like "ordinary chap."

I think this confirms that Meade's last exposure to black folks was when he watched the movie Airplane over 35 years ago.

Drago said...

Again why cant Trump just stick with shoving cigars up interns, groping other chicks in an unwanted way and driving young boiler room girls into "the drink" and leaving them to drown?

Or better yet, just drug and rape and sodomize an underage girl! That kind of stuff will get you academy award nominations and standing ovations!

Carry on!

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Many people hear "I'm gonna bomb the shit out of ISIS" and they cheer!

Most people hear "It's a shitty budget" and then just wince at the lack of substance. Trump don't cuss every day but when he does, it gives the right emphasis. Perez is such a gross little toad. I really thought the Dems would at least try to UPgrade from Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz. But NO!

Heywood Rice said...

Who's a cheeky monkey?

No, you are.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I am glad that TTR is speaking up for all the delicate Hollywood snowflakes who were so stunned by the idea that some women in certain showbusiness venues might not be that aghast at the idea of a "rich and famous" personality

...doing what? Grabbing them? Assaulting them?

We discussed this when the tape came out. I think it was overblown then. Even though the hostess didn't.

So the issue here is the double standard. Apparently Trump was too crude for her then, until he wasn't.

But these Democrats? Hooooow boy! What do they think they can get away with!?

Right.

Meade said...

I wasn't talking about black "folks", tootsless, I was talking about you.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Again why cant Trump just stick with shoving cigars up interns, groping other chicks in an unwanted way and driving young boiler room girls into "the drink" and leaving them to drown?

I notice Republicans really get off on the idea of confusing consensual acts and non-consensual acts.

Trump's a gentleman. Every Miss America Pageant owner talks about the perks of being able to walk into the dressing rooms and ogle contestants as they change clothes.

Nothing creepy about that at all. Nothing.

Roger Ailes, Bill O'Reilly... Remind me, what's the score on creep downfall?

Richard Dillman said...

According to Geoffrey Chaucer in The Canterbury Tales" , Mr. Perez used a "shitworde" which meant foul language at the time.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I wasn't talking about black "folks", tootsless, I was talking about you.

Oh, so you were saying you thought I was black?

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Why put "folks" in "scare quotes," BTW?

walter said...

"Democrats
Fuck you, Republicans!"
Just Kos

Bob Boyd said...

"Careful. You could slip a disc."

I resemble that remark.

Meade said...

"Roger Ailes, Bill O'Reilly... Remind me, what's the score on creep downfall?"

You got Ailes and OReilly but then you still haven't brought down Bill Clinton or Bill Cosby. So I guess that's 2 -2.

Drago said...

TTR: "I notice Republicans really get off on the idea of confusing consensual acts and non-consensual acts."

You must not have been noticing anything that closely as you glossed over the explicit wording used to highlight Billy boys multiple instances of unwanted groping. Pussy grabbing even. Not to mention his payout for a quite explicit unwanted experience.

I can't help but notice that the left seems to really get off on labeling all Democrats unwanted transgressions as "consensual".

I guess that's what makes those instances "consensual", the "Democrat" part.

In the future we ought to make the Dems carte blanche more explicit in the law so that we are all u front with the double-standard nature of laws passed.

Bob Boyd said...

"That's how you approach them, which was the context of the Trump quote."

Trump didn't advocate grabbing the pussy as an opening move. He advocated becoming rich and famous as an opening move.

Anonymous said...

Trump said O'Reilly was a "good man" despite his years long sexual harassment of female Fox News employees and people here are concerned about the use of the word "shitty". Talk about "backwards".

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

You got Ailes and OReilly but then you still haven't brought down Bill Clinton or Bill Cosby. So I guess that's 2 -2.

Bill Cosby's career is ruined. Why did you throw him in there, though? Did his activism for personal responsibility in certain communities trouble you?

And there's a real obsession with Clinton. From the sounds of it, he probably crossed a line or two when it came to one or two women. But the idea of a pattern as pervasive as what afflicted the bloated baldies at FOX, doesn't appear so. Unlike Ailes and O'Reilly, there actually are a number of women who want/wanted to have sex with Bill Clinton - very much so. Which rankles the conservatives no less so apparently than it rankled the unfuckable Ailes and O'Reilly.

walter said...

Well..at least accusations of..
Whereas Perez' shit clearly exists.

walter said...

Sounds like Clinton gets some cred for being more fuckable. Interesting.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

You must not have been noticing anything that closely as you glossed over the explicit wording used to highlight Billy boys multiple instances of unwanted groping. Pussy grabbing even. Not to mention his payout for a quite explicit unwanted experience.

You talking about Clinton? I think it's likely he crossed a line or two, as anyone that, er, active is likely to do. Hopefully the miscommunication ends before it goes too far.

But the difference is, there were so many women throwing themselves at him that people are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt regarding an instance of miscommunication vs. premeditated rape or harassment. Which Ailes and O'Reilly couldn't do. Their own patterns showed that so few women actually wanted anything to do with them that they had no choice but to prey on women in situations where their lucrative jobs were at stake.

Republicans have to stop being so unfuckable and then maybe they'll get the Clinton standard and some of that high-priced Clintonian-level benefit of the doubt that they crave so badly.

I guess no one trusts them that way, though. Oh well.

gspencer said...

With children on stage behind him, Perez told an audience in Las Vegas this weekend that Trump doesn't give a s**t about people or their health care.

This from the leader of the party of Abortion Yesterday, Abortion Today, Abortion Forever.

As the phrase goes, ya can't make this stuff* up.

*I'm aware that Perez would use the other word, but I consider people who use foul language to make their points really don't have sound or worthwhile arguments or ideas.

Meade said...

"Why did you throw him in there, though?"

Because he's in that same generation of American men, who think Bill Clinton's crossing a line or two with one or two women doesn't matter because they themselves believe Bill Clinton is just so gosh darn fuckable that sexual harassment just doesn't even rise to being an issue.

Anonymous said...

Trump swearing, in case anyone forgot.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Because he's in that same generation of American men, who think Bill Clinton's crossing a line or two with one or two women doesn't matter because they themselves believe Bill Clinton is just so gosh darn fuckable that sexual harassment just doesn't even rise to being an issue.

You have trouble counting, Meade? Cosby's accusers now number 60. How many do Clinton's number?

It's women who give Clinton the benefit of the doubt. The men (usually frustrated Republicans with a political and jealous axe to grind), not so much. Are you confusing your genders? That's a problem given your party's love of getting really involved in what goes on in bathrooms these days, and that's not even counting Larry Craig.

Cosby's behavior was suspected and/or known among more than just his accusers, but with other comedians.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Anyway, sorry if I was brusque when asking about numbers (and/or genders). It's just astounding to me though that someone would equivocate between the actions of Cosby and his sky-high number of accusers and the much lower number who've accused Clinton of anything.

Meade said...

Wait. Who's Larry Craig?

Meade said...

"It's women who give Clinton the benefit of the doubt."

I didn't realize you are a woman, Tootless.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I didn't realize you are a woman, Tootless.

I don't reflexively discount their experiences or what they have to say on account of gender, Meade. Do you?

Well, it would make sense if you would. It sounds like you're trying to call me a woman as if it should be a demeaning thing for you to call me. Or did I misread you?

You can always rephrase if you feel you were misunderstood.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Wait. Who's Larry Craig?

Lol. One of those notorious Republican abusers of bathroom access

Drago said...

TTR: "But the difference is, there were so many women throwing themselves at him that people are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt regarding an instance of miscommunication vs. premeditated rape or harassment."

Juanita Broadricks claim of actual rape rape is quite serious. And if one uses only a few of the left's rules for rape she is clearly a victim.

n.n said...

If the UnPlanned children only knew that their worth was judged by the "color of their skin".

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I didn't say it wasn't serious. Or that Wiley's claim (or the third woman's claim) wasn't serious.

But there's a different context. O'Reilly and Ailes have no case when it comes to benefit of the doubt. The O'Reilly Mackris case, in particular, just blows out of the water any idea that O'Reilly was a guy who just lost track of things before going (or not going) too far.

Those transcripts are phenomenal. Not felafanal. Phenomenal.

Drago said...

TTR: "That's a problem given your party's love of getting really involved in what goes on in bathrooms these days, and that's not even counting Larry Craig."

I personally do not relish the idea of grown men having access to my young daughter in a woman's bathroom.

I'm just funny that way...

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/14/man-who-choked-girl-in-womens-restroom-stokes-alar/

Buts it's cool. The 8 yr old was probably asking for it, right?

TestTube said...

Most people really can't vulgar language effectively, and end up just sounding ridiculous.

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Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

If the D-crats want to self destruct - Lets not stop them.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

I'm with AprilApple. I'm all in favor of this. I think the Dems should curse like longshoremen constantly, to show people they care.

Carry on,please!

Sebastian said...

"I can't believe they think this is a good idea." "Can't believe": no, not that again! Anyway, I can believe it perfectly well. Perez c.s. are nasty culture warriors, so using dirty tools to do their dirty deeds is to be expected. Trump showed them that "the right" doesn't believe in civility horse manure either, so with the ranks of sensitive midwestern moderate souls slowly thinning out, there's no need for them to pretend. I wish it weren't so.

BJM said...

The left has lost the plot.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Here's more D-crat insanity.

Preaching... they never stop preaching. So glad leftists feel the need to chastise Trump for 'grab em by the pussy" all while they triple flip their preachy vulgarity.

*h/t Lem*

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

"If you like your plan you can keep your plan"

"If you like smooth talking liars, the D-crat party is for you."

T-shirt that.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

"If you like not understanding how insurance works, vote Republican."

Guildofcannonballs said...

"Never made par and I could give two shits" - Kid Rock

Never Met a Motherfucker Quite Like Me.


I used to joke "I'd eat the shit out of that" about food on the tele that looked appetizing.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

"If you have no clue about economics or the Constitution, and you hate free speech - vote D-crat."

Fernandinande said...

Holy shit, that guy has no couth!

walter said...

Dunno..all those women throwing themselves at him but he needed to send his minions out to track women he liked down or attack a woman seeking help..his ultimate downfall leading to impeachment and disbarring being an intern the likes of Monica...
Based on reactions during Hil's run, Billy has worn out his fuckable status.
He too is ready for his turkey pot pie.

Bay Area Guy said...

Has Bill Clinton been publicly seen since November 8?

Anonymous said...

I have fantasies of mailing Tom Perez a box full of poop, with a note, "You're wrong, Tom, Republicans DO give a sh*t."

Anonymous said...

St. George said...

"How far we have fallen..."

A trenchant and moving post. However, the words you quote were spoken by a Republican.

BillyTalley said...

Didn't know that the stages of grief had a coprophilia step in it.

Johanna Lapp said...


I'm told that this song by Spanky and Our Gang was controversial in its time (1968). Not for the sentiments preached, but because "give a damn" was a lyric too profane for the airwaves. Apparently no progress made since Clark Gable scandalized moviegoers in 1939.

https://youtu.be/hFwfe4Sjvmw

Strangely, it starts with a subway ride.

tim in vermont said...

"If you like not understanding how insurance works, vote Republican."

Or run for president as a Democrat.

tim in vermont said...

What really upsets them about the "grab 'em by the pussy" thing is that women are in complete denial about how hypergamous they are. Of course it makes perfect sense even if you don't believe much in the findings of evolutionary psychology, that women over the millions of years of human evolution, who were attracted to powerful men might be more successful in terms of reproduction, but, as we all know, logic goes out the window when it comes to "gender."

tim in vermont said...

The same women who are upset about "grab 'em by the pussy" were out here claiming that Bill Clinton couldn't have sexually assaulted women as they clearly would throw themselves at him.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Billy Jeff still dicking bimbos at home?

Paco Wové said...

"Democrats give a shit about people, you asshole" would have been even better. Stronger. Punchier. Maybe Ritmo can get a job as an advisor for Democratic t-shirt slogans.

MadisonMan said...

The DNC is pretty much divorced from reality. They have not learned one whit from the DWS/Clinton malfeasance. Perez just continues the march down the road of irrelevance.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

"Democrats give a shit about people, you hopeless basket of deplorable."

Paco Wové said...

"Democrats:
Shut Your Pie-Hole,
White Man!"

I like it. Has potential.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

"Democrats: hands off my vagina, but you must pay for my abortion you racists."

Rusty said...

Testtube @ 7:57
Fuckin'A bro.

furious_a said...

Thomas Perez is a coprocephalic coprophage..

Wince said...

"Democrats give a fart about people."

Perez should listen to George Carlin's 'Seven Words You Can't Say on TV.'

"Farts are 'shit' without the mess."

MadisonMan said...

Democrats give a fart about people

Here I sit, broken-hearted.
Came to shit, only farted.

Friend don't be so down at heart
Some day you'll shit when you want to fart.

(Seen at just about every Boy Scout outhouse ever, back when Boy Scout Camps had outhouses)

Professional lady said...

In my late teens, I regularly used words that would make a sailor blush. By the time I was twenty, I decided it made me sound stupid and stopped.

Matt Sablan said...

Because they look at the Internet and think "This is what the kids want."

TestTube said...

MadisonMan,

Still got 'em at at a lot of the camps, including Philmont and some of the more rustic Merit Badge camps.

Thought you might like to know.

You were a Scout?

Kevin said...

"You got Ailes and OReilly but then you still haven't brought down Bill Clinton or Bill Cosby. So I guess that's 2 -2."

Al Gore's second chakra, Anthony Weiner's kid-seeking weiner...