September 9, 2016

"You're not supposed to give any credit to Trump, he's supposed to be crazy, but..."



ADDED: Here's the post back in January where I prod Glenn Loury with the suggestion that he is, secretly, a Trump supporter.

13 comments:

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Democrats are off limits to criticize. They can be as crooked as they want to be. Off. Limits.

Megthered said...

as my grandma would say "crooked as a dog's hind leg". That is the Dem party.

Sprezzatura said...

Here's a new one you can add to your repertoire: crooked as a barrel of fish hooks.

eric said...

It's interesting to me that he thinks he is open to a Republican.

Hypothetically, he is. If, for example, there were no media and no Democrat party to continually shout racism and twist everything into a race war, sure.

Barring that? Never gonna happen. That guy is firmly planted on the Democrat plantation. They don't have to work to earn his vote. He's part of the 90% black vote that is solid Democrat.

rehajm said...

C'mon. You know you wanna. Everybody's doin' it...

Don't say 'Just Say No.' Just say, "Welllll...maybe just this once....'

sane_voter said...

I would bet Glenn is voting Trump. He finally got around to speaking some truth about 8 minutes into the video. He seemed afraid to do that up until that point, but he couldn't suppress it any more.

Kelly said...

Not crazy, just not normal in any way I recognize. I'm a never Trumper, but with the celebs and the media going off the deep end? Who knows what I'll do in the privacy of the ballot box.

D. said...

>A SPECTER is haunting Eastern Europe: the specter of what in the West is called "dissent." This specter has not appeared out of thin air. It is a natural and inevitable consequence of the present historical phase of the system it is haunting. It was born at a time when this system, for a thousand reasons, can no longer base itself on the unadulterated, brutal, and arbitrary application of power, eliminating all expressions of nonconformity. What is more, the system has become so ossified politically that there is practically no way for such nonconformity to be implemented within its official structures.

Who are these so-called dissidents? Where does their point of view come from, and what importance does it have? What is the significance of the "independent initiatives" in which "dissidents" collaborate, and what real chances do such initiatives have of success? Is it appropriate to refer to "dissidents" as an opposition? If so, what exactly is such an opposition within the framework of this system? What does it do? What role does it play in society? What are its hopes and on what are they based? Is it within the power of the "dissidents"—as a category of subcitizen outside the power establishment—to have any influence at all on society and the social system? Can they actually change anything?

I think that an examination of these questions—an examination of the potential of the "powerless"—can only begin with an examination of the nature of power in the circumstances in which these powerless people operate.<

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Mary Beth said...

What have you got to lose?

wildswan said...

Make America Great Again - Return to 1969.

Bill Moyers has a show called What's Wrong With Milwaukee In Seven Charts. The key chart shows that the Great Lakes area lost three million jobs between 1969 and 2010. The other charts show what this led to. One chart shows that blacks went from 84% employment to 52%.
Some other statistics
In that same year, 1969, 75% of black families were two parent families headed by men. The Civil Rights Act had passed and survived challenges. Blacks were a growing percentage of the population because abortion was not legal.

That was forty-five years ago and America was a leading economic and military power. So Make America Great Again is not evoking the era of segregation but rather the era when segregation ended and blacks moved toward the mainstream in every respect - but above all, they had jobs and families with a shot at good jobs and good schools.

The era of good jobs was slowly nibbled away by trade deals - this is Donald Trump's key insight. These deals disregarded the American worker but the impact was not overwhelming until NAFTA and China came online. You can see in Moyer's statistics the steep fall in jobs that followed. And the American political establishment has disregarded the consequences of the trade deals except for trying to bring in socialistic levels of welfare to soften the impact. It has not tried to keep jobs here. And it never will unless Donald Trump prevails. Our political class has become shot through with corruption and lobbying for the un-American side of trade deals. The situation of the blacks - it reminds of one terrible picture of New Orleans post-Katrina where the people left behind can be seen standing in a crowd waiting for buses - all black. They were the last to understand what was bearing down, they didn't have the cars to get away when they did understand, the buses (another picture) were underwater, and the mayor had run away. But the New Orleans' left-behind were almost all saved, one by one, by an enormous mainly civilian unorganized effort by whites which was made effective by the refusal of the blacks to descend into the chaos and hysteria which the media attributed to them.

Similarly the blacks are the largest group left behind by the anti-American job hurricane in dying cities. The group that caused the destruction now wants the black vote. But in 2016 machine by machine in the voting booths by voting for Trump the blacks could, if you will, to get into a boat and get away. It's not too late - it has been done before.

wildswan said...

http://billmoyers.com/2013/07/03/whats-wrong-with-milwaukee-in-seven-charts/

BREAKUP OF BLACK FAMILY IMPERILS GAINS OF DECADES
By JUDITH CUMMINGS
http://www.nytimes.com/1983/11/20/us/breakup-of-black-family-imperils-gains-of-decades.html?pagewanted=all

wildswan said...

As for the immigration argument - of course the Hispanics are great people. They walk through deserts to come here for jobs, they work hard when they get one, they have family values. But America doesn't have the growth and the jobs it used to have. So now the consequence of one person immigrating and getting a job is that another person, a native son, doesn't get a job. It's like the Irish potato famine where six million people died of hunger. The potatoes in Ireland failed but there was wheat in the country that could have fed the people but it was all shipped out of the country. That way, the principle of free trade was maintained, thank God for that. Or, maybe not.

Similarly immigration has benefited this country in the past but maintaining high immigration levels when the economy has been severely damaged is not supporting a principle; it is uncaringly destroying the lives of the American citizens, black and white alike who trusted that the politicians were doing their best for the voters. And this destruction is more and more often being done these days in order to collect a bribe or pay-off.

Paul Snively said...

wildswan: As for the immigration argument - of course the Hispanics are great people. They walk through deserts to come here for jobs, they work hard when they get one, they have family values.

Huh. It's almost as if there were some pretty consistent attribute of the citizens of Central and South America, some property they share very uniformly, that provides this belief in the future, work ethic, and strong family ties. If only it had a name, something we could put our finger on...